[aussie800m]

aussie800m on March 26, 2007 at 6:15 am #12902

Im very Curious about this topic as i notice that basicly every athlete does some sort of weighted exercises with the majority doing this in weight rooms. Having noticed this it seems like the exercises done in a weight room must have a good impact in running (obviously it does) but every since i was a kid i've heard so many athletes/ coaches say that Event Specific Exercises are most beneficial as to improve in something one needs to practice, to improve accuracy of a pitch/throw a pitcher would spend time throwin a ball at a target and reinacting what is required in a game by him. To improve ones technique in doing something then enough time must be spent in practicing the new style so that it works its way into their normal technique and because natural. My queery is if sports specific exercises are so beneficial for improvments, does this mean it would be better to proform exercises that replicate the running action required with additional weight (ankle, wrists, chest weights etc) provide more benefits from them than the exercises completed in a weight room.

Weight room includes: Squats, deadlifts etc
Running exercises: bounds, depth jumps, weighted repititions

All imputs on this topic would be greatly appreciated- whether it be scientific studies on this topic or just your opinion, im interesting in hearing everyones different point of views. If you dont understand the question being asked i will explain it more

[utfootball4]

utfootball4 on March 26, 2007 at 7:59 am #63730

RUNNING!

[aussie800m]

aussie800m on March 26, 2007 at 8:04 am #63731

so your saying that doing strength work that is specific to your running style gives more benefits than hitting the weights room?

[utfootball4]

utfootball4 on March 26, 2007 at 8:20 am #63732

so your saying that doing strength work that is specific to your running style gives more benefits than hitting the weights room?

im saying going out and sprinting is the best specfic event you can do to improve your running.

[popequique]

popequique on March 26, 2007 at 8:55 am #63733

Sprint related drills/exercises will have the biggest benefit and in my opinion almost all of the benefit, the only slight benefit i would see to weightroom accounting for a significant portion of training is during times of bad weather were no running facility is available and maybe for the 55/60m dash, besides that sprinting and sprint related drills should be the main focus, lifting may have some benefit if you are plateauing on the track, but that is just my opinion not scientific in nature.

[aussie800m]

aussie800m on March 26, 2007 at 9:24 am #63734

Sprint related drills/exercises will have the biggest benefit and in my opinion almost all of the benefit, the only slight benefit i would see to weightroom accounting for a significant portion of training is during times of bad weather were no running facility is available and maybe for the 55/60m dash, besides that sprinting and sprint related drills should be the main focus, lifting may have some benefit if you are plateauing on the track, but that is just my opinion not scientific in nature.

thx for the input.. its very interesting to see how many people seem to do weight room sessions week in week out but still say that running related exercises are more benificial.

[quote author="Aussie800m" date="1174876478"]
so your saying that doing strength work that is specific to your running style gives more benefits than hitting the weights room?

im saying going out and sprinting is the best specfic event you can do to improve your running.
[/quote]

i dont think u understand the question properly sorry. i know obviously running is going to improve your running but what im asking is whether lifting weights in a weight room or completing drills & exercises like bounds etc with additional weight(ankle, wrist etc) has a greater impact on your overall improvement

[utfootball4]

utfootball4 on March 26, 2007 at 9:32 am #63735

[quote author="popequique" date="1174879545"]
Sprint related drills/exercises will have the biggest benefit and in my opinion almost all of the benefit, the only slight benefit i would see to weightroom accounting for a significant portion of training is during times of bad weather were no running facility is available and maybe for the 55/60m dash, besides that sprinting and sprint related drills should be the main focus, lifting may have some benefit if you are plateauing on the track, but that is just my opinion not scientific in nature.

thx for the input.. its very interesting to see how many people seem to do weight room sessions week in week out but still say that running related exercises are more benificial.

[quote author="Aussie800m" date="1174876478"]
so your saying that doing strength work that is specific to your running style gives more benefits than hitting the weights room?

im saying going out and sprinting is the best specfic event you can do to improve your running.
[/quote]

i dont think u understand the question properly sorry. i know obviously running is going to improve your running but what im asking is whether lifting weights in a weight room or completing drills & exercises like bounds etc with additional weight(ankle, wrist etc) has a greater impact on your overall improvement
[/quote]

i think combo of the two bc if you have athlete who only squat 200lb then no matter how many depth jumps, bounds etc you do it wont do much.

[aussie800m]

aussie800m on March 26, 2007 at 9:35 am #63736

so your sayin they work hand in hand together in your veiws? thats very interesting, thx for the input..

[star61]

star61 on March 26, 2007 at 10:21 am #63737

I think the way the question is worded is skewing the responses. Your poll asks the question…

"Which provide more Strength BenefitsSpecific to Running",

but your post is entitled…

"Which Exercises Provides More Specific Benefits For Running?"

Two entirely different questions. I think the answer to the frist question is weight training in the gym, but the answer to the second question is sprinting on the track.

[aussie800m]

aussie800m on March 26, 2007 at 11:28 am #63738

ahh yeh i see sorry bout that ill fix it, thx for the reply

[utfootball4]

utfootball4 on March 26, 2007 at 11:43 am #63739

so your sayin they work hand in hand together in your veiws? thats very interesting, thx for the input..

exactly!

[Mike Young]

Mike Young on April 5, 2007 at 8:12 pm #63740

Leave the ankle and wrist weights to old men jogging around your local park.

To enhance speed, stick with heavy (or fast) multi-joint ground based lifts and jumps and high intensity sprinting (without ankle weights). If you feel as if you must load the sprints, I'd suggest either doing it environmentally (hills, steps, etc.) or via a more centrally located resistance (vest, parachute, pulley, etc.). 

ELITETRACK Founder

[grprahl]

grprahl on April 5, 2007 at 8:40 pm #63741

You'll get the most benefits out in the weight room out of season. During season, specific exercises like the sprints mentioned will most likely benefit more.

Think of it like a car. During the off season you might put in a bigger engine (hypertrophy) or make the engine more efficient (get stronger for your weight). In season you are making final tuning adjustments to get the best possible racing times (speed work). This is not to say you can forget about speed work entirely during the off-season, but a larger focus should be on getting a more efficient engine in my opinion.

[star61]

star61 on April 5, 2007 at 9:10 pm #63742

All imputs on this topic would be greatly appreciated- whether it be scientific studies on this topic or just your opinion, im interesting in hearing everyones different point of views. If you dont understand the question being asked i will explain it more

The benefits that a short sprinter (60m -100m) might derive from the weight room may be quite different from the benefits enjoyed by a longer sprinter (400m – 800m). I see your PRs listed are for the 400m and 800m. The cost/benefit ratio of additional muscle mass is higher, IMHO, for an 800m runner, than a 100m sprinter. You should keep that in mind when planning your weight program.